Sunday, October 09, 2005

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posted by David Jahn @ 10/09/2005 10:03:00 PM  

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There is so much corruption going on right in front of everyone in the courtroom, but there is also hanky panky going on behind the scenes. Check this out. The IRS prosecutors were seen coming out of the judges chambers even though the judges secretary tried to secretively wave them around the back way. She was too late though. They were already busted walking out of the judges chambers by the defense attorneys and spectators. When the defense asked the judge about this, the judge said "yes there was ex parte communication, but there was no impropriety and that's all I'm saying about it." Can you believe this?!

The question is Why weren't they, Irwin Schiff and the defense, notified and included?

Irwin wants as many people as possible in court on Tuesday. He's going to be dropping some verbal bombs and needs lots of witnesses to be there for the fireworks. I know it's short notice but, if ever there was a time to go, Now is it! Irwin needs us to be there. PLEASE TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW.

Judge Dawson is denying certain witness to testify and attempting to limit Irwin's witnesses and wanting to know what they are going to be testifying to, before any witnesses go on the stand. Irwin is planning on calling Bob Schulz, Joe Banister, John Turner and more.

Shelley Waxman, former US attorney in Chicago, has known Irwin for15 yrs. In Shelley's book, "In the Teeth of the Wind" he speaks about the corruption in the judiciary/legal profession. Irwin might speak more about that tonight on the broadcast. (on now) To listen, the audio links come alive a minute or two before the broadcast at 7PM pacific 10PM eastern. Be sure to tune in. The link to the station is down toward the bottom of www.paynoincometax.com click on "LISTEN LIVE" or the direct link to the station is http://www.livingwordradio.com/

I hope we have a huge turn-out on Tuesday! Let's overflow the place!

And don't forget to check the audio blogs at www.triallogs.blogspot.com and
http://www.irwinschiff.blogspot.com/ (new photos) and nightly updates.

By Blogger Unknown, at 10/09/2005 11:43 PM  

VOICE YOUR OPINION! Whining or trying to debate collaborators on this web site is not going to help Irwin in any way!

If you too are disgusted with the way Irwin is being treated by the judge and prosecutors at his trial, then let the judge know what you think of his actions. You can write him directly using the address below. Let’s inundate him with mail, and let him know how we feel. If you received thousands of letters telling you that they way you are doing your job is unacceptable, wouldn’t it have an impact on you?
WRITE A SHORT LETTER TODAY! DO IT RIGHT NOW!

Hon. Kent J. Dawson,
United States District Court Judge,
U.S. District Court of Nevada,
333 South Las Vegas Boulevard,
Las Vegas, Nevada 89101


DON’T STOP THERE! Write to the U.S. Attorney General too! Tell him guilty or not guilty, Irwin Schiff deserves a fair trial, as guaranteed by the constitution!

Alberto Gonzales, Attorney General
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20530-0001

WRITE A SHORT LETTER TODAY! DO IT RIGHT NOW!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/09/2005 11:51 PM  

Im not as smart as some of you brains out there but I do know the truth when I see it.
The judge is clearly trying to hang Irwin and the others and that alone is cause for mistrial.
Its hard for me to understand how many of you can defend this governments actions and the lack of media participation when this effects us all and will effect our children even more so.
Its a discrace that there are people in our country that would support such tyranny for their lack of knowledge or personal gain.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 1:19 AM  

It doesnt seem like there is a constitution anymore.
These lawyers and judges and polititions have been running rampid for so long that they dont even care about what the law says. They do what they feel like and base their decisions on what side of bed they got up on.
And case law and summary judgements are among the biggest freedom killers there is.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 1:29 AM  

“Some see pleasure in pain; and some cannot cleanse themselves except with filth.”

You will read many posts from those who revere the corporate government. They believe this government is real, but then again they also believe their money is actually money and is real. How far from reality and truth can one stray? They would like everyone to believe that Irwin has somehow harmed someone! It’s as though they write things they haven’t thought of yet. They think that because the fiction government makes a claim that is true and without question. AND they believe that because someone sees something different than they, that they are somehow superior. They act as though blind faith in a fiction is a virtue, why is that?

Reality proves the government is a corporation today but “they” fail to investigate it, selecting only to read what the government doles out for them to believe. In reality the money is not money at all but a foreign owned fiat currency that binds & shackles them to their owner. In reality Irwin is not on trial for harming anyone, though their government will print this in order for those to believe it, and worse to actually say it. Irwin simply makes the case that our forefathers have made (they were called tax rebels and criminals too ya know) and anyone who still has the spirit of free choice and agrees, in some form or other, is not harmed by Irwin but enlightened by the fact that THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG HERE!

Those in belief of their own superior status call people losers, tax protestors and other monikers, and actually believe they are superior to their forefathers that gave them a chance at freedom. But freedom is not in America for the corporate government kills who it doesn’t like. IT enacts Coups and war throughout the world and bullets and CS gas and courtroom hangings abound within the geographic union states.

They would have you believe that the government is always right and the status imposed upon us comes somehow from our “will.” They would have you believe that America is really something that it is not, economically and freedomwise. They fail to read the actual facts wanting only to believe what they think and then have others think it too. America is way down the list of countries in economic freedom…look it up, Hong Kong being at the top.

So please learn to think and to speak and write after you have thought it through completely and consider those who come after you, now being born into debt of nearly $30,000. Are those alleged American babies FREE! Or are they born into servitude to a foreign owned currency system wherein their hard earn debt paper discharges only a mere portion of the interest owed to the foreign banking cartels leaving them destined to the growing poverty rate and their children to be born fully into servitude.

“We waged a war against poverty, and poverty won.” Ronald Reagan
Of the many forms of poverty, the poverty of a free mind and American spirit are on display throughout these pages.
CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 7:32 AM  

Where is the evidence that they talked with the judge about anything of substance? They could have dropped by his office to leave a courtesy copy of a pleading and merely said "hi" to the judge while they were there.

It is obvious that the koolaid-drinking Schifty sheeple will do anything to fabricate or stretch the truth to make it seem like this twice-convicted felon is somehow innocent this time. Fortunately, the intelligent people will see through this cult mentality and see Schifty for the PAYtriot that he is.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 7:41 AM  

Where is the evidence that they talked with the judge about anything of substance? They could have dropped by his office to leave a courtesy copy of a pleading and merely said "hi" to the judge while they were there.

Both of these acts violate court procedure. That is why judges have clerks for receiving and conveying documents. No one needs to violate procedures as a courtesy to the judge. So, you're going to have to do a little better to justify this illegal meeting with the prosecuters.

It is obvious that the koolaid-drinking Schifty sheeple will do anything to fabricate or stretch the truth to make it seem like this twice-convicted felon is somehow innocent this time.

I can't speak for koolaid drinkers, but it is obvious this man, guilty or not, will not get a fair trial in this country

Fortunately, the intelligent people will see through this cult mentality and see Schifty for the PAYtriot that he is.

Unfortunately, they will also learn much about our government and its judiciary along the way.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 8:37 AM  

Anonymous -

"Where is the evidence that they talked with the judge about anything of substance?"

That is intellectually dishonest and really shows you for what you are. You are not interested in justice at all, you are a cheerleader like the French who collaborated with the Nazis in World War II. Too bad for you.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 10:23 AM  

Anonymous says again:

"Where is the evidence that they talked with the judge about anything of substance? They could have dropped by his office to leave a courtesy copy of a pleading and merely said "hi" to the judge while they were there.

"the koolaid-drinking Schifty sheeple * * * this twice-convicted felon * * * schifty * * * PAYtriot"


There you go again with your pathetic name-calling and ad hominem references to Mr. Schiff. You must be in awe of Mr. Schiff to debase yourself by resorting to such low-life tatics. Where have we seen that style of "persuasion" before?

Regarding the minimal subtsance of your post, ex-parte contacts and meetings between the court and counsel for either side while a trial is in progress, and otherwise, are strictly prohibited. It creates an appearance of impropriety, bias, prejudice, and unfairness, and is forbidden. If nothing improper was said or done, why did Judge Dawson refuse to elaborate when asked?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 10:33 AM  

US televangelist says Venezuela threatens US with nuke

"The truth is, this man is setting up a Marxist-type dictatorship in Venezuela, he's trying to spread Marxism throughout South America, he's negotiating with the Iranians to get nuclear material and he also sent 1.2 million dollars in cash to Osama bin Laden right after 9/11," Robertson said.

OK THERE IT IS FOLKS, ANOTHER BLIND BELIEVER THAT THEY ARE AND WE ARE NOT A MARXIST TYPE GOVERNMENT.

A CHALLENGE FOR THE “NON-KOOLAIDE DRINKING CROWD" -

1. WHICH OF THE 10 PLANKS OF THE MARXIST COMMUNIST MANIFESTO ARE NOT FULLY IMPLIMENTED IN AMERICA TODAY and WHICH ARE???

Failure to prove that most or all of the 10 planks are not implemented and to continue to spout our your hatred for the "koolaide drinkers" and to remain on the side of those 10 planks proves you to be practicing Communists. CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 10:43 AM  

Here's some HELP for you! Be sure to make your well founded claims and validate your word.

TEN PLANKS OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

In 1848 Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote a book outlining a political ideology, titled "The Communist Manifesto". Marxism's basic theme is that the proletariat (the "exploited" working class of a capitalistic society) will suffer from alienation and will rise up against the "bourgeoisie" (the middle class) and overthrow the system of "capitalism." After a brief period of rule by "the dictatorship of the proletariat" the classless society of communism would emerge. In his Manifesto Marx described the following ten steps as necessary steps to be taken to destroy a free enterprise society!! Notice how many of these conditions, foreign to the principles that America was founded upon, have now, in 1997, been realized by the concerted efforts of socialist activists? Remember, government interference in your daily life and business is intrusion and deprivation of our liberties!
First Plank: Abolition of property in land and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. (Zoning - Model ordinances proposed by Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover widely adopted. Supreme Court ruled "zoning" to be "constitutional" in 1921. Private owners of property required to get permission from government relative to the use of their property. Federally owned lands are leased for grazing, mining, timber usages, the fees being paid into the U.S. Treasury.)
Second Plank: A heavy progressive or graduated incometax. (Corporate Tax Act of 1909. The 16th Amendment, allegedly ratified in 1913. The Revenue Act of 1913, section 2, Income Tax. These laws have been purposely misapplied against American citizens to this day.)
Third Plank: Abolition of all rights of inheritance. (Partially accomplished by enactment of various state and federal "estate tax" laws taxing the "privilege" of transfering property after death and gift before death.)
Fourth Plank: CONFISCATION OF THE PROPERTY OF ALL EMIGRANTS AND REBELS. (The confiscation of property and persecution of those critical - "rebels" - of government policies and actions, frequently accomplished by prosecuting them in a courtroom drama on charges of violations of non-existing administrative or regulatory laws.)
Fifth Plank: Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. (The Federal Reserve Bank, 1913- -the system of privately-owned Federal Reserve banks which maintain a monopoly on the valueless debt "money" in circulation.)
Sixth Plank: Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State. (Federal Radio Commission, 1927; Federal Communications Commission, 1934; Air Commerce Act of 1926; Civil Aeronautics Act of 1938; Federal Aviation Agency, 1958; becoming part of the Department of Transportation in 1966; Federal Highway Act of 1916 (federal funds made available to States for highway construction); Interstate Highway System, 1944 (funding began 1956); Interstate Commerce Commission given authority by Congress to regulate trucking and carriers on inland waterways, 1935-40; Department of Transportation, 1966.)
Seventh Plank: Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. (Depart-ment of Agriculture, 1862; Agriculture Adjustment Act of 1933 -- farmers will receive government aid if and only if they relinquish control of farming activities; Tennessee Valley Authority, 1933 with the Hoover Dam completed in 1936.)
Eighth Plank: Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies especially for agriculture. (First labor unions, known as federations, appeared in 1820. National Labor Union established 1866. American Federation of Labor established 1886. Interstate Commerce Act of 1887 placed railways under federal regulation. Department of Labor, 1913. Labor-management negotiations sanctioned under Railway Labor Act of 1926. Civil Works Administration, 1933. National Labor Relations Act of 1935, stated purpose to free inter-state commerce from disruptive strikes by eliminating the cause of the strike. Works Progress Administration 1935. Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, mandated 40-hour work week and time-and-a-half for overtime, set "minimum wage" scale. Civil Rights Act of 1964, effectively the equal liability of all to labor.)
Ninth Plank: Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country. (Food processing companies, with the co-operation of the Farmers Home Administration foreclosures, are buying up farms and creating "conglomerates.")
Tenth Plank: Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. (Gradual shift from private education to publicly funded began in the Northern States, early 1800's. 1887: federal money (unconstitutionally) began funding specialized education. Smith-Lever Act of 1914, vocational education; Smith-Hughes Act of 1917 and other relief acts of the 1930's. Federal school lunch program of 1935; National School Lunch Act of 1946. National Defense Education Act of 1958, a reaction to Russia's Sputnik satellite demonstration, provided grants to education's specialties. Federal school aid law passed, 1965, greatly enlarged federal role in education, "head-start" programs, textbooks, library books.
(Research source: Encyclopedia Britannica.)

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 10:46 AM  

God forbid that we provide children with lunches!

Subtitle: When anti-communism defies common sense.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 11:41 AM  

ahh, lovely a true communist. Come to Amerika, the land of a free lunch!

Remember freedome loving Americans, there are more of them than there are of US.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 11:45 AM  

Oops...NOTHING IS FREE! Even lunch.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 11:45 AM  

Since you obviously Hate America so much, feel free not to let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Are any of Schifty's supporters not virulent America haters?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 11:50 AM  

Ahh our Communist friend believes that America should be communist and was created as such and thus it is HIS country for he LOVES Communism.

He reveres a goverenment policy and monitary scheme that creates poverty so to bolster the idea that it is only common sense to give a child a lunch.

It is therefore not common sense to NOT create the poverty, the absolute control over everything a person does so they can provide their own lunch and when they come upon hard times, as happens, the freedom loving and careing Americans can give them a hand.

When asked for your shirt, give your jacket too. Of course that means you have to have a shirt and jacket that hasn't been confiscated.

Now what country are you talking about that you think you own so much of that you can say that I "hate America" a total unproven statement and then tell me to leave??? CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 12:12 PM  

Most hover dubiously between mute rebellion and prattling submission.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 12:15 PM  

When the admitted communist detractors can correctly identify the distinction between the American Republic and the US Legislative Democracy then they will quit saying that I hate America. My communist friends or enemies (what ever you believe) will correctly say that CJ loves the American Republic and that is where he lives and that they love the Legislative Democracy, wherein they’re form of government has exclusive legislative jurisdiction over them, and that is where they live. It is a matter of STATUS! Learn it! CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 12:29 PM  

Nah, face it: You Hate America. You Hate the American government. You Hate the American econony. You even Hate most other Americans since they don't agree with you or take the action they want you too.

If you Hate America so much, then feel free to leave. Don't make the rest of us miserable by griping that no great number of people will follow your lead.

You are the ones who are the Communists because you want a small minority of losers to dictate the actions of the majority.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 3:09 PM  

CJ...you're awesome...a patriot...you speak of our founders and marxism eloquently and are an embodiment of freedom of which the verbal enemies on this blog only wish they could hold a candle to as they under the only conclusion imaginable, must be marxists themselves...oops, name calling...God help the wisdom of the jury(and that they're not bought and paid for, too) that they see the truth in all this.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 3:16 PM  

More Proof,

"You are the ones who are the Communists because you want a small minority of losers to dictate the actions of the majority."

Let's see what was it that Ben Franklin said...oh yes... Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on what to have for dinner.
The above party supplies NOTHING but hackneyed name calling minus anything pertenent to the conversation rendering his or her words of no importance. He or she provides no proof as to what America he or she attempts to talk about for he or she doesn't know the definitions or legal uses.

The Constitution my friend and the American principle is to NOT allow the majority to imposed their will upon the minority. IF 51% of the people were cannibals, does that mean that in America the other 49% would be eaten? I think not.

When you can identify anything with substance I will love to read it and I can change my mind but not with hackneyed whinning.

The term Communist is not name calling, it is a term with factual backing and by ones words are the justified and by ones words are they condemned. I did not condemn anyone, they do so themselves. CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 3:31 PM  

A little help for those that use terms incorrectly -

America refers to the Republic. The Republic opperates under real money, common law and is bound by the Constitution.

US refers to territories and the insular possessions. US is not bound by the same Constitutional limitations, uses fiat currency and statutory law.

America has not adopted the Communist Manifesto
The US, a different form of goverment overlayed upon the geographic area has.
I love America. Those that despise me love the US legislative democracy and confuse that with America when telling me to leave America. They don't live in America, how could they tell me to leave it when they don't even live there? GET IT YET? CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 3:46 PM  

Its sad that people have the gall to say "If you dont like it in America leave". It only shows their ignorance of their own country. They defend the status quo blindly like puppets and think they are being patriotic by doing so. Wake up people! If this is still a free country ruled by the people then we should be able to change whats wrong with her.
I look at my country as an old home. It is built on a solid foundation (the constitution) but the roof is leaking (the judicial system). The windows need replaced (polititians). and the whole place is in need of fresh paint(truth,justice).
But unless we educate ourselves (which are our tools to do the job)
we will never accomplish anything here.
I love this home! I just want to see it restored to its full glory!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 5:20 PM  

Hey, isn't that a black helicopter I see hovering over your trailer-park?

"full glory" What exactly is that? Even back in the day before an income tax, you people would still be considered way beyond the fringe. If it wasn't the income tax, you'd be protesting that the internal combustion engine was a government conspiracy to take away your horses and they used "horsepower" in the description of the power output of the engine so as to "fool" you into falling for the lie.

The fallacy of your logic is that you decide the outcome (taxes are illegal) and craft all that you see, read and hear around that outcome. You can never be convinced that you're wrong, so don't even begin with another dale eastman cut and pasting the "what is the definition of definition" books.

By Blogger David, at 10/10/2005 6:28 PM  

Some hear with their ears, some with their stomachs, some with their pockets; and some hear not at all.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 6:52 PM