Sunday, October 09, 2005

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How can somebody who has been twice convicted, and also lost EVERY case he had against the IRS for liens or whatever, successfully assert the Cheek defense?

This defense never works for promoters, see Phil Marsh, Lynne Meredith, Larken Rose, etc.

[Banister did not use the Cheek defense, BTW]

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/09/2005 10:55 PM  

Schiff has also welched on his bet to pay anybody who can prove that he is liable, see http://www.quatloos.com/taxscams/protcase/newman.htm

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/09/2005 10:57 PM  

Hey Anonymous -

Do you think that the judge is acting impartially in this trial?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 12:41 AM  

Schiff can hardly welch on payment for something that has never been proven.

Sure, some people have miserably failed to read the tax law themselves (publik skool and such) and believed themselves to have made the money...but no reasonable person could claim to be owed such.

As to the court case about it, it seems fairly apparent that it was dropped because Irwin would have to be allowed to argue the law.

Anywise, the link provided is quite telling...it shows exactly the type of garbage posted at the quatloos site.

By Blogger Nekogami, at 10/10/2005 1:53 AM  

What shall be said of the man who slaps me when I kiss him on the face with truth and reality and who kisses the foot of those who slap him in chains?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 6:50 AM  

"Do you think that the judge is acting impartially in this trial?"

Yes, the one-sided comments of the twice-convicted felon's koolaid-drinking sheeple followers notwithstanding.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 7:37 AM  

You are all "debtors" and how many "rights" do debtors have?

Non - Koolaide drinking notwithstanding!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 7:43 AM  

Corporate Bankruptcies Rise 20% Before U.S. Limits Take Effect
Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) --

Business bankruptcies rose almost 20 percent at the busiest U.S. courts last quarter as companies such as Delphi Corp. and Northwest Airlines Inc. seek protection from creditors before a new law forces them to accelerate reorganization plans.

``There is definitely a shift in the balance of power from the debtors under the current laws to the creditors under the new laws,'' said Lenard Parkins, a bankruptcy lawyer with Dallas-based Haynes & Boone.

So you say you are not a debtor maybe and that the banking cartel doesn't run the country!

What's that got to do with it you ask?

Your a debtor living under a bankrupt corporation while believeing you are an American with rights.

It's got everything to do with it. CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 7:50 AM  

The debt is impossible to pay under the "terms and conditions" that exist today. Even a 100% income tax cannot fix the debt. So for the Patriots that love your chains, phony money and income tax...YOU FIX IT!

Whats your SOLUTION.
IF you don't have a solution or a remedy, than your words have no value! CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 8:00 AM  

The bankruptcy rate, which was much higher in the 1980s BTW, does not create a defense for a twice-convicted felon.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 8:39 AM  

Anonymous likes to refer to Schiff as:

"Schifty" and "a twice-convicted felon"

Hey, anonymous, your powers of persuasion are overwhelming. Name-calling and ad-hominem arguments always carry the day for the intellectually challenged.

You, like Judge Dawson, apparently believe that the current trial is merely an irritation since Schiff, the "twice-convicted felon", doesn't deserve a trial to begin wth.

By Anonymous HK, at 10/10/2005 10:12 AM  

No anon. the bankruptcy rates are not a defense at law in the courtroom for Irwin Schiff trial, this is true, however that FACT that you tend to overlook the underlying circumstance with regard to the reasons it is imperative that people come together to straighten out the PROBLEM is very telling.

Irwin's problem is in court and with statutory law and word games, OUR collective problem is way bigger, deeper and more devastating to a nation of people as a whole.

The micro and macro view respectively. CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 10:36 AM  

"Sure, some people have miserably failed to read the tax law themselves (publik skool and such)"

I notice it isn't private school educated people who fall for con artists like Schiff...

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 12:02 PM  

"I notice it isn't private school educated people who fall for con artists like Schiff... "

Hahahahahahaha one of the funniest yet! Thanks

The pro tax & status quo crowd can state things as fact without having any fact whatsoever to support their position. Name the study and the source for your conclusion about home schoolers. I have first hand personal knowledge of home schoolers that were smart enough not to get a SS#.

Once again YOUR WORDS ARE VOID. cj

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/11/2005 8:00 AM  

Anonymous cowardly silly person tried:

"How can somebody who has been twice convicted, and also lost EVERY case he had against the IRS for liens or whatever, successfully assert the Cheek defense?"

The implicit presumption behind your question is that the law, as written, favors the feds in this trial. That presumption is false.

By Blogger Jamie, at 10/14/2005 6:13 AM