Tuesday, October 11, 2005

Irwin Schiff Trial Coverage by Freedom Law School (Segment 3 of 4)

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Published: 12 October 2005

For anyone who has ever wondered what their boss earns or how much their friends and neighbours are worth: move to Norway. Oslo has set a new standard in transparency by publishing all citizens' tax records online.

The launch in 2002 of a searchable database of tax records was greeted with a storm of controversy from those who - for whatever reason - were unwilling to have citizens' private affairs made available for all to see.
It took just one year for these critics to temporarily scupper the scheme, and, in 2003, the right-wing government led by the then prime minister Kjell Magne Bondevik passed a law restricting online access to financial records to a maximum of three weeks from the day of publication.

But the step was vehemently opposed by journalists and campaigners committed to transparency in Norwegian society, and it appears likely that the recently elected left-leaning government of Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg will abandon the deadline for next year's lists. (end)

The question then becomes, How far from the original Constitution do the people really want to stray? For some it would appear the above is not far enough, for others it has gone too far already. CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/12/2005 11:30 AM  

Isn’t it interesting the judge tells Irwin he can’t participate in these blogs but allows the prosecution team to do so. The proof the prosecutors are commenting is the fact they site, by name and their attorneys name and the case numbers, of over twenty people who have lost in court. They also site obscure court ruling to prove their point. Who, other than disparate Federal Prosecutors, would have that information? I suggest the person in charge of these blogs run a trace on the commenters who site such cases for Irwin to be able to prove who those people are.

One of the federal Prosecutors made a comment on these blogs asking anyone to explain how the tax system could be improved. So here is their answer!!
The simplest system to tax all the people THAT WOULD BE CONSTITUTIONAL is a national sales tax. The reason the government does not want to do that is when a citizen went to buy a car and the tax was $12,000.00 then he would ask, "What the holy hell are you clowns spending my money on?"
Opps, no more pork projects! No more raises for Congress passed in the middle of the night. No more paying of IRS agents or Federal Prosecutors to illegally prosecute people who tell the truth. Now wouldn't it be a shame if those soulless people had to get a real job?

By Blogger zblackhorsez, at 10/12/2005 12:45 PM  

Lighten up Francis!

Anyone who knows their way around the internet can find that information.

It is a matter of public record.

Stop talking out of your ass.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/12/2005 1:06 PM  

Yes anyone can find that information. However, only a federal Prosecutor or IRS agent would do so because they have a dog in the fight. And at this point it looks like their/your dog is a poodle while Irwin's is a vicious Rottweilert with its jaws tearing into the neck of your Poodle!

By Blogger We the Constitutionalists, at 10/12/2005 2:09 PM  

Success story by a so called ‘TAX CHEAT’ by using Schiff materials, and then modifying them for my use as what Schiff wants everyone to do:

Can you understand what Schiff has been trying to get across the last 30 years? He is just focused on the tax issues rather than political issues. His case must be dismissed if it goes to appeal! Is Judge Dawson a GOD for being the LAW? NO!

Just for reference: YOUR government has not been a legitimate government since 1933, if not before. Have you ever bothered to do research on this? Much of what Bush has unlawfully done is posted on infowars.com, including the latest on the potential impeachment by taking actions against Iraq and then letting Halliburton clean up with Cheney having more than 400,000 shares of their stock. Isn’t that like insider trading? Have you bothered to see that Bush wants military rule rather that the local police because the military is trained to KILL, not assist; and he is in favor of torture as he will veto the anti-torture bill. NON-taxpayers, even lawful ones, are considered terrorists under the Patriot Act as they are preventing the funding of the ‘New World Order’ as G.H.W.Bush said in 1991.

Now, I have been a follower of Schiff, Benson, and Schulz for the last 4 ½ years. Can you claim EXEMPT by the government’s view and NOT commit a crime? YES, according to them you can, as long as you pay the tax!!! What is perjury anyways? On the Form W-4 you are either ‘liable’ or ‘NOT liable’ and nothing in-between. If you are ‘liable’ for the ‘income’ tax just on the basis that it is ‘imposed’ then EVERY American must therefore file a tax return and pay the tax. AND you must file and pay ALL the other taxes that are ‘imposed’ just because they are ‘imposed!’ I have not found the statute for alcohol tax being ‘imposed,’ but those that produce it and/or sell it ARE ‘liable’ for the tax.

A few years ago I was working at an aerospace company with a union. In November I filed EXEMPT like many others around the country. In December they laid of 180 people from our facility alone. In January a grievance was filed for my wrongful termination according to that latest contract in October. Nearly 2 years later I finally received a large settlement and still was EXEMPT.

More than a year later I received a job as a Correctional Officer, in which I claimed EXEMPT. I followed through with notifying the Personnel Manager, Business Manager, and then the corporate office. I finally had to sit down with the Warden and Business Manager to explain why I was allowed to claim EXEMPT and then they didn’t take any federal or state ‘income’ taxes out, but kept me filling out a Form W-4 every year. I also became the Union President for the Correctional Officers and tried to implement the truths in the contract, but I was prohibited from that by the Union Exec’s as it was a personal matter between the employee and the employer.

My last job I did the same by claiming EXEMPT and sent and received two letters to the Director of Human Resources and one to their lawyer. They basically threatened me to commit perjury and then terminated me under the ‘at-will employment agreement’ that is in place with many employers. They basically can fire you for NOT obeying an order, ‘committing a crime’ as that is what the ‘agreement’ is, but I have found that they cannot force you to ‘commit a crime’ otherwise they could have you commit all other types of crimes like robbing a bank, assaulting another employee or customer, etc.. I have a case against them, but I am waiting for the EDD to get back with me on whether they may be included for allowing the employer to commit some crimes.

All the meanwhile I have been writing letters to the IRS and Franchise Tax Board, with only one meeting with a Franchise Tax Board representative at this time. They have yet to take me to court and force an employer to take the taxes out.

I thought ‘income’ tax evasion was a crime, so why am I NOT arrested? Well, because ‘income’ tax evasion is NOT listed under Title 18, CRIMES, but not paying taxes on alcohol and others are crimes.

By Anonymous non-liable, at 10/12/2005 2:12 PM  

hey blackhorse, you idiot. How did that whole BI thing go? You never answered by geography question either. Need directions to my blog again?

The legion that have lost court cases using Schiff and the other loony-birds "theories" are a matter of public record. The fact that Dale Eastman is able to cite some court cases, shows that one doesn't have to be intelligent to find them.

By Anonymous Frank Buckner, at 10/12/2005 2:28 PM  

The rottweiler is old and toothless.

Gumming a young poodle is your plan?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/12/2005 2:29 PM  

Dearest Darling Anonymous,
It only rakes a second to establish a name to blog under. Now I know "DIRTY ROTTEN GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE SCUM" has been taken but there are other names you could use to describe yourself!

By Blogger We the Constitutionalists, at 10/12/2005 2:46 PM  

Dearest Darling Anonymous,
Oh, I forgot. You are afraid if you register to get a blog name you will be traced back to the IRS/Prosecutor/Judge Dawson’s offices. Now I understand the hardships of being a ROACH when the light comes on!
However, you are operating under a false sense of security. A computer freak with the right software, as I just bought today, can trace “Anonymous” posts and give that information to Irwin to use if an appeal becomes necessary or to expose you before Judge Dawson. And trust me on this, Judge Dawson will not like it when one of his flunkies gets caught with his pants down.

By Blogger We the Constitutionalists, at 10/12/2005 3:17 PM  

Anonymous verbose employment chronicler said:

"I am waiting for the EDD to get back with me"

EDD = Employment Discrimination Division/Department?

Just wondering.

By Blogger Jamie, at 10/15/2005 11:24 PM