Monday, October 10, 2005

Folks,

I'm passing this along because it addresses further misconduct. Objections to the changes must be made by October 17, 2005.

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From: Larry Becraft - Attorney at Law - Huntsville, Alabama

Folks,

As an exercise in making government work, I ask all of you to take a few
moments and go to:

http://www.stop6020now.com/

The IRS is now proposing new regulations for an important activity to
which we can object. This site explains how to do so.

When this site first was posted, objections to these regs could be made
via direct links, but because of this site and the traffic it generated, IRS
changed things to make it harder to object over the Net. But please read
what is posted at the above and object: there are only 7 days left for
objections.

Larry
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13 Old Comments:

My sincere compliments to Paul Andrew Mitchell for doing what we
all, at the very minimum, should be doing when he writes: "BEST
REGARDS TO Irwin Schiff AND HIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF FAMILY & LOYAL
FRIENDS."
I am so very disappointed that we in the patriot community have
been so lax and blas'e in not sending our best wishes and a big thank
you to Irwin Schiff for his aggressive stand on behalf of our
liberty. Here is ole man who is doing battle, taking it to the
enemy, in the their ball bark, in their courtroom, in front of their
bar, and we haven't even done the basics of thanking him and cheering
him on.
Woe be it unto us when it is our turn and there is no one there
to give us the morale support we will need. I pray that when it is
my turn, God will grant me 1/10th the cahonies of Irwin Schiff.
I thank you Irwin Schiff and Cindy Nuen and Larry Cohan for your
efforts on my behalf and for the example you are setting for us
all!!!!
bob minarik - rochester indiana


--- In No-Income-Tax@yahoogroups.com, Supreme Law Firm paulandrewmitchell
wrote:
>
> Many thanks, Kurt.
>
> Can you please forward this message to Irwin's staff?
>
> I THINK WE HAVE CAUGHT THE NINTH CIRCUIT
> RED-HANDED IN THE ACT OF DELIBERATE FRAUD
> (see full details below: I faxed the critical pages
> to Irwin's fax number earlier today:
>
> If Schiff is BARRED from admitting into evidence
> both the law and his understanding of the law, then
> DAWSON'S COURT IS SURELY A STAR CHAMBER
> and Irwin has been victimized by a MIS-TRIAL!!
>
> THAT IS NOW PAINFULLY OBVIOUS, IMHO,
> AS IT WAS ALSO PAINFULLY OBVIOUS
> WHEN THIS INTERVIEW WAS TAPE-RECORDED:
>
> http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/trumane/interview.htm
> (begin reading at "Cheek")
>
> AND, IT IS TRUE FOR NUMEROUS JURISDICTIONAL REASONS,
> MOST OF WHICH IRWIN HAS ALREADY RAISED!!
>
>
> I am standing by. BEST REGARDS TO Irwin Schiff AND
> HIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF FAMILY & LOYAL FRIENDS.
>
>
> Sincerely yours,
> /s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S.
> Private Attorney General, Criminal Investigator and
> Federal Witness: 18 U.S.C. 1510, 1512-13, 1964(a)
> >
> All Rights Reserved without Prejudice
>
>

By Blogger LAWoman, at 10/10/2005 7:33 PM  

Man, that will be a hoot when 6020 is adopted and all the non-filers are automatically filed for!

That plus the new $25,000 frivolous penalty will finally weed out a lot of TPs.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 7:37 PM  

BTW, why hasn't Paul Andrew Mitchell showed up at the Schiff trial?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 7:38 PM  

I can't wait till the income tax is uniformly extracted to the tune of $100,000 per annum and those not meeting their obligation are executed but only after they watch their families executed and bodies dumped into vats to extract the nutrients for cleaner burning fuel. Facetiously yours,

Truth is a lie
Facts are lies
Reality is false
Thinking harms people
Honor creates terrorism
Peace enacts violence

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 7:53 PM  

Yea, it'll be a hoot!

And then we all can wait for Caesar's new centurions to come by everyone's home in the US to collect the taxes.

Ain't gonna happen jerk off!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 8:06 PM  

Man, that will be a hoot when 6020 is adopted and all the non-filers are automatically filed for!

Are you really that nieve? The governments been lying and claiming they have the authority under 6020b to complete returns for decades. It those kind of dirty lies coming from our government that raise supicions further among the tax honesty folks.

If the government lies about their authority under 6020b, what else are they lying about, and how do we know when they are telling the truth? I suppose we should all believe it when we hear it from one of the tyrants in a black robe after they come out of their backroom meeting with the governments prosecutors.

That plus the new $25,000 frivolous penalty will finally weed out a lot of TPs.

That will certainly divide our citizens. Those who believe in freedom and justice will be behind bars, while the sheep you seek to control run the streets.

I abhor you people who think the solution to all of your problems can be found with an armed police force and a prison to house the people who don't submit to your authority.

I guess that has become the American way.

Maybe that is why so many people of wealth are leaving this nation. Soon, all that will be left are us tax slaves.

You parasitic government employees might have to look for new hosts to feed on after you bleed this country of all it is worth. We're are just about bankrupt now with no hope of recovery.

I suppose that will be the American way within a decade or two when we are all living in the streets.

It's a pity that you people with your high and mighty attitudes won't see that things are collapsing around you until it is too late.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 9:01 PM  

The IRS didn't get caught in their own court doing what they are not supposed to do either right! They LIED
Call me a jerk off when you stop supporting liars.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 10:04 PM  

Anyone figure out the reference to a case wherein "The 9th Circuit said, in a case involving a tax violation, that because of Cheek, defendants were now permitted to introduce into evidence their own understanding of the law, and they are now able to introduce into evidence the law itself, so that juries can see the law." in the Trumane interview at supremelaw.org?
Is it real? Did the court say it?
If so, why has no one used that case?

A cite would be appreciated. Thanks.

By Anonymous jg, at 10/10/2005 10:12 PM  

From Cheek v US

"We thus hold that, in a case like this, a defendant's views about the validity of the tax statutes are irrelevant to the issue of willfulness, need not be heard by the jury, and if they are, an instruction to disregard them would be proper. For this purpose, it makes no difference whether the claims of invalidity are frivolous or have substance."

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 10:24 PM  

"That will certainly divide our citizens."

Yeah, into an even smaller group of TP crazies. Bob Schulz can barely get a hundred people to come to his rallies, and Irwin has usually had less than a dozen at any time at his trial.

6020 will discourage most of the rest of the non-filers, meaning that the remaining group of TPs will then be smaller than ever, and much more easily dealt with.

Who opposes 6020 other than a few TPs? NOBODY.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/10/2005 11:55 PM  

Who is in favor of the IRS being allowed to change a rule wherein their own court found them lying, and to do so will “fix it” for them rather than have them follow rules? Answer: those who lick their oppressors’ feet and other parts of the anatomy.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/11/2005 10:35 AM  

Anonymous said...
"That will certainly divide our citizens."

Yeah, into an even smaller group of TP crazies. Bob Schulz can barely get a hundred people to come to his rallies, and Irwin has usually had less than a dozen at any time at his trial.

6020 will discourage most of the rest of the non-filers, meaning that the remaining group of TPs will then be smaller than ever, and much more easily dealt with.

Who opposes 6020 other than a few TPs? NOBODY.


Where does this motivation come from? Is that how they teach you to act, being employed by the government? Violence and hatred? Why? I guess since your "scam" against the American people is coming to an end all you can do now is kick and scream. Also, do you type your post in Quam or are you located inside one of the states, or DC?

By Anonymous An Ant, at 10/11/2005 1:56 PM  

Cowardly anonymous silly person spammed:

"From Cheek v US

"We thus hold that, in a case like this, a defendant's views about the validity of the tax statutes are irrelevant to the issue of willfulness, need not be heard by the jury, and if they are, an instruction to disregard them would be proper. For this purpose, it makes no difference whether the claims of invalidity are frivolous or have substance." "


Already discussed on prior comment thread in this trial. The point you are evidently attempting to make is invalid.


Another cowardly anonymous silly person vomited this bile:

" "That will certainly divide our citizens."

Yeah, into an even smaller group of TP crazies. Bob Schulz can barely get a hundred people to come to his rallies, and Irwin has usually had less than a dozen at any time at his trial.

6020 will discourage most of the rest of the non-filers, meaning that the remaining group of TPs will then be smaller than ever, and much more easily dealt with.

Who opposes 6020 other than a few TPs? NOBODY."


Public opinion is never wrong, especially in an authoritarian country. What were we thinking to ever question our rightful masters? Of course they don't need to answer our questions -- we're just "tax protesters"! If we were "someone who mattered" then that would be different. Everyone knows the validity of the question varies depending on the identity/quantity of the askers, and that anyone who takes the question seriously when only unimportant people are asking it is "a crazy".

Thanks so much for your wisdom, O'Brien. I am becoming sane at last.

By Blogger Jamie, at 10/14/2005 11:31 AM