Thursday, October 13, 2005

Irwin Schiff Trial Coverage by Freedom Law School (Segment 3 of 5)



It was brought out in segment 3 of the 10/13/05 conference call that citizens no longer have a right to financial privacy. According to the Supreme Court in United States v. Miller, anyone who uses a bank account is an open book to the government since you waived your right to privacy when you conducted any transactions with the bank.

The case is United States v. Miller (425 us 435)

(a) The subpoenaed materials were business records of the banks, not respondent's private papers. Pp. 440-441.

(b) There is no legitimate "expectation of privacy" in the contents of the original checks and deposit slips, since the checks are not confidential communications but negotiable instruments to be used in commercial transactions, and all the documents obtained contain only information voluntarily conveyed to the banks and exposed to their employees in the ordinary course of business. The Fourth Amendment does not prohibit the obtaining of information revealed to a third party and conveyed by him to Government authorities. The Act's recordkeeping requirements do not alter these considerations so as to create a protectable Fourth Amendment interest of a bank depositor in the bank's records of his account. Pp. 441-443.

(c) Issuance of a subpoena to a third party does not violate a defendant's rights, even if a criminal prosecution is contemplated at the time the subpoena is issued. California Bankers Assn. v. Shultz, 416 U.S. 21, 53. Pp. 444-445.

Page 425 U.S. 435, 436

(d) Access to bank records under the Act is to be controlled by "existing legal process." That does not mean that greater judicial scrutiny, equivalent to that required for a search warrant, is necessary when a subpoena is used to obtain a depositor's bank records. Pp. 445-446


Further infringements on financial privacy result from the absence of large currency denominations. At one time there were $500 and $1,000 bills in circulation. That is no longer the case. In 1969 they discontinued the $500, $1,000, $5,000 and $10,000 demonitations. Try buying a $30,000 car with $100 bills and you quickly see how difficult it is to function in our society with cash.

Worse yet, the Bank Secrecy Act (the astute will quickly gather that this is an anti privacy act) imposes reporting requirements. As a result, the government must be notified if any citizen attempts to conduct business with cash above a threshold. For example, the banks must report anyone who deposits or withdraws more than $10,000 in a given day.

Anyone attempting to purchase money orders or cashiers checks over $3,000 will run into difficulty as a result of the regulations that apply to those money instruments.

As a result, our finances are all open books to the government and we are denied financial privacy.

Are you enjoying your financial privacy and freedom today?

19 Old Comments:

Paymons Freedom callin posts are a waste to this blog. We are here to hear from those that are actually at the trial. Paymon is not at the trial. So who ever is posting paymons BS should stop wasting our time!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/14/2005 10:54 AM  

After hearing Judge Dawson’s Jury instructions I am, once again, in awe of and grateful to one of the authors of the Constitution, Thomas Jefferson. Isn’t it amazing he had the vision to know that JURY NULIFICATION would one day be the only way a man could receive justice in a federal court. When he wrote, “During a jury trial the jury is the only authority and if they find the law to be unfair or that a judge has overstepped his authority then they, the jury, can and should do the just thing. And when they post their verdict announce, for all the world to hear, that such law or judge should be changed, reprimanded or judged himself.
We, the true patriots, must all hope at least one member of the jury understands this most important element of our jury system.

By Blogger The Law, at 10/14/2005 11:21 AM  

Judge Dawson’s illegal and misleading jury instructions were expected and as much of a fairy tale as he and the prosecution could make them. However this jury will see the light and free the last patriot, Irwin Schiff.
On another subject , isn't it comforting to know the federal government employs frank buckner, anonymous guy and the other obvious anonymous government bloggers? They demonstrate their vast knowledge of the English language, writing skills and imagination when all their blogs end up being childlike attacks!
However, it is encouraging to know if that’s the best the prosecutors/IRS can offer then the real patriots have nothing to worry about.

By Blogger We the Constitutionalists, at 10/14/2005 11:25 AM  

I guess it’s time I tell the truth. I know Mr. Schiff is innocent because I heard my boss at the IRS say, “if we don’t frame Schiff our jobs are in jeopardy.” So I hope everyone understands and forgives me but I had to write those things my boss and Judge Dawson told me to. Didn’t I?

By Blogger frank bucknar, at 10/14/2005 11:33 AM  

Isn’t it interesting the judge tells Irwin he can’t participate in these blogs but allows the prosecution team and IRS agents i.e. Frankie Boy Buckner ect. to do so. The proof the prosecutors are commenting is the fact they site, by name and their attorneys name and the case numbers, of over twenty people who have lost in court. They also site obscure court rulings to prove their point. Who, other than disparate Federal Prosecutors, would have that information or bother to point it out? I suggest the person in charge of these blogs run a trace on the commenters who site such cases for Irwin to be able to prove who those people are.
One of the Prosecutors pointed out in a comment to this blog that anyone could get that information. The answer to that prosecutor is, “Yes anyone can find that information. However, only a federal Prosecutor or IRS agent would do so because they have a dog in the fight. And at this point it looks like their/your dog is a poodle while Irwin's is a vicious Rottweiler with its jaws tearing into the neck of your helpless Poodle.”
Now I know listening to the gurgling sounds coming from that white fur ball are sickening but the illegal crap must die for freedom to triumph.

By Blogger zblackhorsez, at 10/14/2005 11:43 AM  

If Paymon didn't pay for the calls we would all be in the dark so we should thank him. If he makes a pitch once in a while its OK with me.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/14/2005 11:48 AM  

hey blackhorse you idiot.

How did that whole BI thing go?

How come you didn't answer my geography question, being you said you were in Vegas?

Lastly, have you put the wheels on your house yet?

PS: Doug Kenline aka. "Frank Bucknar" is still a spineless piece of crap.

By Anonymous Frank Buckner, at 10/14/2005 12:17 PM  

There doesn’t have to be a LAW?

Then I guess it is true that when you fill out a Form W-4, in which you sign under penalties of perjury, that it is a CRIME to claim EXEMPT if you do not end up paying the tax!

Where does it state that in any LAW, that the perjury charge depends on whether you pay the tax?

I have gotten away with committing that perjury, along with millions of others, back in the days where I did not know the truth.

So I guess, I just confessed to committing a crime and therefore should be charged with it, but the millions of others shouldn’t be for doing the same crime!

By the way, how did government survive prior to 1942 if it was ‘income’ tax that was the primary source of revenue?
1). Somehow WE as a nation survived for 166 years, 1776-1942, without the income tax from 89% or more of the people.
2). Somehow the government forgot to collect the ‘income’ tax from the 89% of the people for 29 years, from 1913-1942.
3). Somehow Congress is not doing their job if they allow judges to MAKE LAW, so we can get rid of Congress as WE do not need LAW-makers!!!

By Anonymous non-liable, at 10/14/2005 1:10 PM  

hehe! I agree.

We now have two law-making bodies in the United States.

So it would make sense to get rid of one, because the government is just wasting money having two.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/14/2005 2:11 PM  

We now have two law-making bodies in the United States.

So it would make sense to get rid of one, because the government is just wasting money having two.


It's not their money they're wasting. Why should they be concerned about that. They can always raise the tax rates.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/14/2005 2:21 PM  

To: The Law said...

Where can the quote for Jefferson on Jury Nulification be found?

By Anonymous Tinker, at 10/14/2005 2:39 PM  

You mean this one?

[The people] are not qualified to judge questions of law, but they are very capable of judging question of fact. In the form of juries, therefore, they determine all controverted matters of fact, leaving thus as little as possible, merely the law of the case, to the decision of the judges. --Thomas Jefferson

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/14/2005 2:46 PM  

We should have Bob Schulz and We The People Foundation take the transcript of this trial, the one from Simkanin’s, and others, to Congress and show them that they are NOT the ultimate Law-making authority; however low-life judges are.

And since this is true that there does not need to be LAW and the judges have the final say-so, then we SURELY do NOT need them, Congress.

By Anonymous non-liable, at 10/14/2005 2:50 PM  

Hey folks, thanks for your verbal support of me during my kangaroo trial. I was told not to "audio" blog anymore, but the Nazi judge said nothing about writing.

I appreciate all the support, but my finances have been being drained by this illegal trial. Please, if you really believe in the truth about the income tax laws, send whatever you can to

Irwin Schiff Support Fund
C/O Freedom Books
444 East Sahara Avenue
Las Vegas, NV 89104

Obviously I would prefer cash donations.

I thank you and so does Cindy and Larry.

By Anonymous Irwin Schiff, at 10/14/2005 8:29 PM  

Well, I guess it is too late to assist Schiff with any more information to give to the jury, as well as his motion to have all this dismissed which included mentioning the Corporation Tax Act of 1909. Did you know that if your name is in ALL capital letters you are considered a corporation, but you cannot be taxed as if you were! Why aren’t you listed with any Secretary of State as a corporation, or even write any resolutions for the actions you take? They use the same laws, but they tax you differently and don’t bother with the corporate activities.

Can the IRS or the courts explain how anyone can claim EXEMPT and NOT commit perjury on the Form W-4 if we are liable for the ‘wage’ tax? But it just says ‘tax liability’ not specifying what tax. You could have a sales tax liability for a weekend job, so therefore you must NOT claim EXEMPT and thus have the ‘withholding tax’ taken out. Well I have found out that it doesn’t matter about the perjury portion, it only matters if you pay the tax, or if your employer makes you pay the tax. Is the ‘withholding tax’ going towards the sales tax? NO!

With the forced acceptance of your SSN then you automatically became a U.S. citizen and not just a state citizen. So therefore you reside in a U.S. territory even though your home and place of employment are NOT!

Banister’s and Benson’s earlier cases were won by using “The Law That Never Was” which removed any doubt that the 16th Amendment was ever ratified, but Schiff would not allow this and he should go on his own views and books, which were not allowed to be brought in.

If he is convicted then it most likely will be that Judge Dawson will close the books on the case and not even allow Schiff to appeal, as “What is there to appeal?” when there are no court documents to be seen! How can Schiff appeal his ‘credibility’ as presented? This would be Judge Dawson committing employment suicide if he did anything like that.

By Anonymous non-liable, at 10/15/2005 11:55 AM  

If you are seeking the truth about Judge Dawson's conduct during Irwin's trial go to;
http://mickeydamouse.blogspot.com
and
http://mickeydamouse2.blogspot.com

By Blogger We the Constitutionalists, at 10/15/2005 9:24 PM  

Mentioning the Corporation Tax of 1909 and corporation names in caps.
Have you looked at your driver's license lately? It's in caps. You are signing for a corporate fiction and are responsible for it. If you make a signature that is in printed caps it's considered an illegal signature. Next time try signing that way. When the state sends you a letter telling you that it's illegal send back a letter asking how. They more than likely won't answer.
Also, look at your SSN (Socialist Slave Number) card. You're name is in caps. It's a corporate name. Here's how it happened. Congress passed the Social Security (Socialist Slave) Act of 1935. If you look carefully in the details it shows that your citizenship changes from a citizen of the land with rights to a corporate citizen with privileges. Once you sign on the dotted line you become a corporate citizen (slave) of DC. You are also guilty until proven innocent with that change. Now do you understand that when facing the IRS or the cop in traffic court that you have to prove your innocence? It's all code and code is not law. Go look it up. Under the COLOR (presumption, guise) of law makes code (IRS, traffic and all others) look like legitimate law.
It is a step-by-step approach to slavery. The hardest part was dealing with the South. The Civil War was a tax revolt/protest war against DC by the South. DC had to get those people out of the way. That cost over 600,000 Americans lives. Con people into submitting their original land deeds to county seats between 1890 and 1910. Pass the corporation tax of 1909. Falsely pass the 16th Amendment in 1913. Pass the Victory Tax law in 1943 while the men are away (great diversion for them) and hike the taxes higher and higher to present day. Anyone who questions them you squash them like a bug and send them to jail. They defend themselves with firearms, mow 'em down. Just like the Nazis, the Fascists, the Commies, and all other tyrants.
More and more people are becoming aware that a tyrannical, oligarchal, Socialist, atheist, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish world government is coming together. When that happens a new Holocaust ensue that will make Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pot et al look like child's play. They want a population of 500 million. Go to

www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com.

But I have faith that the Spirit of God is raising up people from all walks of life to soon in our lifetime confront this evil for a final all out battle. But the courts are where we first start-peacefully.

There are three key elements in this fight.
1. Education
2. Prayer
3. Deeds such as treating people with kindness and respect. The other is going to court and challenging these unjust codes (aka laws).

The Heebew Hammer

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/15/2005 9:31 PM  

I forgot to mention. Only corporate citizens (slaves) are bound to code and can be persecuted by non-judicial tribunals like tax court with ignorant slaves as the jury judging you. with the onus on you proving your innocence. Citizens of the land are bound to law and can only be prosecuted by judicial judge and convicted by a jury who are not slaves that know their rights as jurors.

The Heebrew Hammer

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/15/2005 9:41 PM  

Do you wonder what Judge Dawson looks like? Would you like a couple of pictures of Judge Dawson for your wallet or to put on your Christmas cards or to throw darts at?
Then go to;
http://mickeydamouse.blogspot.com
http://mickeydamouse2.blogspot.com
and thank me later!

By Blogger We the Constitutionalists, at 10/16/2005 12:31 AM