Saturday, October 22, 2005

Irwin Schiff interview with Doug Kenline (Call 2)

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there was a segment 2 but i guess we lost it into the great bit bucket in the sky.........don't know why it didn't post......maybe it'll show up in a little

By Blogger Doug, at 10/22/2005 9:41 PM  

· "...we find more firmly implanted than ever the same general idea of the State…an organization of the political means, an irresponsible and all-powerful agency standing always ready to be put into use for the service of one set of economic interests as against another."
Albert Nock "Our Enemy the State"

By Anonymous gd, at 10/22/2005 10:17 PM  

"The bureaucracy is a circle from which one cannot escape. Its hierarchy is a hierarchy of knowledge. The top entrusts the understanding of detail to the lower levels, whilst the lower levels credit the top with understanding of the general, and so all are mutually deceived."
Karl Marx

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/22/2005 10:17 PM  

***"The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them."***
Karl Marx

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/22/2005 10:18 PM  

I wish Irwin would stop referring to Dawson as judge Dawson he is not worthy of the title. If Irwin wants to be polite refer to him as Dawson, scumbag tyrant we will all understand perfectly well.


By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/22/2005 10:52 PM  

Big boy said
read Dennis M. Hertel's member of Congress 1985 letter where he states that the Gov.took out the section from IRS Form 668- w where there is no authority to levey wadges of private citizens in the private sector. Go to
Check this out Judge Kent Dawson!!!!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 12:38 AM  

little boy
If someone in congress knew that they took out a section of Form 668-W. Why did he not tell all the members? Well guess what they all knew about this.They are evil!
Read the letter,It states that only employees of the United States Gov. are to pay income tax!!!Thatis you Kent Dawson !!!!
You need a stick in your right eye the left one is already screwed up.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 12:51 AM  

lucky sucky says
Not mormon,But whore-man they do believe in having more than one, two, three wifes.How many wifes did Jesus's father have?
to find the truth man---who is he MR.dennis M Hertel member of congress. Dawson put on a dog & pony show for the WHITE MAN.7 no black man even knew about it!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 1:05 AM  

truth man
How can a person find out if this down and dirty dawson took a oath of office & where does one do such a thing?(secretary of state's office)Doug K. please respond.This man dawson has no spine at all.He must do what they tell him or the IRS will steal his car& maybe his right eye.Then he could not see any more.If one does not know anything & can not see then he would qualify as a judge.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 1:27 AM  

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By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 2:10 AM  

cookie cutter
judge kent dogsman which one of your wifes is the best?How many children do you have by each? Do your church members know about the abortion you paid for?What would you give to conceal this fact?When should i give this source of information out? Do we have a understanding yet? Looks like you better do what i want!!Jack Ass!!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 2:32 AM  

The above comment is blackmail. We don't support illegal activities on this site. We don't like the judge because he is a criminal and I don't like you because what you have just done with your post is criminal and makes us look bad so take a hike idiot. Hope the feds decide to do something useful for a change and come after you. Would the blog master please remove the above comment.


By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 6:36 AM  

The newest picture/cartoon is located at;
This trial, as an ongoing article, win or lose, is being written by The Constitutionalist for this blog. Serious suggestion as to how this story should be told from fellow patriots, such as what was the most important thing during the trial, what documents would have helped Mr. Schiff the most if he could have gotten them entered as evidence and what areas of the trial were the worst as far as judicial misconduct ect. are welcome. Email to (no attachments allowed)

By Blogger We the Constitutionalists, at 10/23/2005 9:39 AM  

To John
you have to understand that when a judge, put in a place of power starts out in the wrong place he can not end up in the right place,never ever,not ever.You said something about blackmail,telling the truth in your own words is blackmail. Fact is you john do not know if the people should be taxed or not.You dont understand what Jesus said if you (JOHN) are ashamed to stand with him (JESUS) on sin & tax he (JESUS) WILL NOT STAND WITH YOU (JOHN) AT THE GATE. Hey john what gate would that be in your wildest dreams? HE (JESUS) said to treat wrong doers like a heaten or a tax collector,you must think your some kind of a judge in reallity your are just a mortal man that has let this judge comtrol your thoughts.A judge does not give you rights,GOD gave you every thing you need,now go do the right thing.You must have some correct thuoghts in the mind he gave you.NO LIE OR TRUTH IS BLACKMAIL. john now thinks he is a judge.
Remember judge not & you will not be judged.Who said thoes words john? JUSES & THE TRUTH ARE THE SAME!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 10:57 AM  

The worst thing that the governments have done is to destroy self-reliance as a virture.

By Blogger FLoA, at 10/23/2005 11:17 AM  

To anonymous (11:57 am)

I wonder if you really understood what John posted? From what you wrote, it is certainly very questionable if you understood John or yourself?

John stated very clearly that the "above" post is a form of "Blackmail" in that the post he refered to made accusations about the judge (no proof provided however)

"judge kent dogsman which one of your wifes is the best? How many children do you have by each? Do your church members know about the abortion you paid for? What would you give to conceal this fact? When should i give this source of information out? Do we have a understanding yet? Looks like you better do what i want!!

John correctly identified “Looks like you better do what I want” as “blackmail”, though it could also be other things as well! John said that this is of poor taste, correctly so, and taints everyone, correctly so. He also seemed to believe it would be better to go after blackmailers than to go after someone with valid legal issues such as Schiff.

Now anonymous, why do you make the statements about John? He provided the facts about the behavior of an anonymous post and that the judge, from our vantage point committed some criminal acts within the confines of the Schiff trial.

Moreover stated, "Fact is you john do not know if the people should be taxed or not."

How did you anon. arrive at this conclusion? I would like your first hand personal knowledge of what John does and does not know?

You, anon. go on to say, "You dont understand what Jesus said if you (JOHN) are ashamed to stand with him (JESUS) on sin & tax he (JESUS) WILL NOT STAND WITH YOU (JOHN) AT THE GATE." Again I would like your authority to judge John based on your personal belief? He is also not under any legal mandate to even believe in the bible or how to believe or interpret the bible.

Seems to me a certain bit of self-righteousness is being displayed with attempt to hide behind the cloak of Jesus. CJ

p.s. John can handle himself and I didn’t post to help him, I posted because I want to know your answers to the above with regard to your alleged Christian view of others! CJ

By Anonymous cj, at 10/23/2005 11:21 AM  

When the 3:32 am blackmailer goes to trial will the jury be allowed to read the law?

By Anonymous John Vories, at 10/23/2005 11:44 AM  

To john
John boy Did you write the BLACKS LAW DICTIONARY? A person tells a lie about a judge & john does not like it. john even states it's blackmail.Judge kent Dawson lies about the very law he is supposed to up hold & john thinks this is ok, who are you john?Fools run in packs!This judge fooled you on the law & that makes you a FOOL.Being you (john)wrote the BLACKS LAW DICTIONARY, may all of us have a copy so we can follow the new rules?At sometime in your life(john)you must determine who you (john)really are.You (john)can make that decision right now or wait until you are at the Gate!IT's your choice john boy.John we all need to come together & support IRWIN he is correct. The people we have put in power ABUSE all of us.The reason i sent this to you is to prove facts & get your ATT>!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO!!!!!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 11:57 AM  

Gee Whiz a mountain out of a mole hill.

Ballentines Law Dictionary states, "BLACKMAIL" A form of the crime of extortion, usually by threat of exposure of some conduct of teh victim which, if made public, would be harmful to him.

Now let's compare the above definition with the post of 3:32 am shall we?

"judge kent dogsman which one of your wifes is the best?How many children do you have by each? Do your church members know about the abortion you paid for?What would you give to conceal this fact?When should i give this source of information out? Do we have a understanding yet? Looks like you better do what i want!!

The phrases, "When should I give thsi source information out? AND "Looks like you better do what I want!" IS CLEARLY AN ATTEMPT AT BLACKMAIL!

Now that that is settled what more drivel must be endured? To say we must come together to support Irwin and then post nonsense gives the opposition fuel with which to burn everyone. Maybe your the opposition however for there are Ghosts on the Blog Threads! CJ

By Anonymous cj, at 10/23/2005 12:43 PM  

Lots of ghosts and no shortage of mental illness either!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 12:47 PM  

To bare false witness and to condone the bearing of false witness is a Christian behavior?
Seems the pseudo Christian can’t win. GD

By Anonymous gd, at 10/23/2005 12:51 PM  

look here guys.there is no such person as judge kent dogsman.Who would claim to be such a person? Only a idiot!how can you file charges on a non person or for a non person.There you go making up stuff.Are you getting the picture yet? Guess all of you work for the GOV.,You pay their income tax.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 12:52 PM  

The term dogsman appears to be an attempt as a derogatory remark, holding no reality but certainly implies, via content, Judge Dawson.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 1:33 PM  

The following is an exact quote from the letter that Congressman Dennis M. Hertel dated
12-31-85....""Notice of Levy on Wages...Section 6331 IRC entitled "levy and Distraint" and Section 6331(a) IRS entitled "Authority of Secretary","...Levy may be made upon the accrued salary or wages of any officer, employee or elected official of the United States, District of Columbia, or any agency or instrumentality of the United States or the District of Columbia, by serving a notice of levy on the employer of such officer, employee or elected official..." does not provide authority to levy wages of private citizens in the private sector. The omission of this section from IRS Form 668-W may be misleading to some employers, as you have suggested."" This letter can be recorded at any county clerk's office. It can be made a matter of record for any person to use in any court proceeding.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 1:42 PM  

""The omission of this section from IRS Form 668-W may be misleading ""


By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 2:18 PM  


Let’s go back to a book that is 2000 years old and then replace the actions done as if it were happening today.

Christ threw the moneychangers out of the church because they were exchanging $10 U.S. Treasury Notes for $10 Federal Reserve Notes as that is all the government would allow in the 501(c)(3) church.
But those $10 Federal Reserve Notes are worth NOTHING in actuality.
Taxes have to be collected to pay for the printing of Federal Reserve Notes, and another word for this is USURY, which GOD disapproves of!
They just print up some more when they need them.
In the mean time they have legitimate U.S. Treasury Notes that they themselves could spend.

Let’s take a look at these and interchange the actual with today’s use, in the bold type:
Mark 12
14 And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to the United States, or not?
15 Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a currency note, that I may see it.
16 And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Federal Reserve Note.
17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to the Federal Reserve the things that are the Federal Reserve's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

You write on your checks, when you need to make a payment, the U.S. Treasury, but you are using Federal Reserve Notes to do so!
Maybe these verses will get you to understand that there is FRAUD going on with your government, and you are just a pawn in the game!
When did the U.S. Constitution change in which Congress could print currency?
Did you know that the Federal Reserve is a private corporation, and it is NOT publicly traded?


Did you know what the Boston Tea Party was all about?
It was that Americans were paying taxes for which they had NO SAYSO on how they were controlled!
Today, it is the same thing!
We are controlled by dictators who make us U.S. citizens if we want to survive anywhere in the 50 states, which by LAW, they have NO authority to do!m

By Anonymous non-liable, at 10/23/2005 4:30 PM  

Did you know that the letter from the Congressman stated;
Congress of the United States rather than CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES?

Did you know that probably everyone of you who filled out a preprinted Form 1040 was committing FRAUD?

Your name was printed like; IRWIN A. SCHIFF, but you signed it Irwin A. Schiff, in lower case letters and therefore you signed as an individual rather than a corporation!

Even the court documents of trials the names are like; IRWIN A. SCHIFF and UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

Did you know that the gold fringe on the flag stands for Admiralty LAW and NOT just honor and respect?

It signifies a military jurisdictional presence.

Under this tribunal that Schiff is going though, he may be held as a treasonous underling!

By Anonymous non-liable, at 10/23/2005 4:59 PM  

For all you IRS agents in training,

Go to and play the game "Black Knight" you beat people over the head to extract taxes, for your king, from them.

Should be loads of fun for ya all!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/23/2005 5:39 PM  

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. prison population, already the largest in the world, grew by 1.9 percent in 2004, leaving federal jails at 40 percent over capacity, according to Justice Department figures released on Sunday.

According to the International Center for Prison Studies at King's College in London, there are more people behind bars in the United States than in any other country.

China had the second-largest prison population with 1.5 million prisoners, according to statistics updated in April and cited by King's College. The total U.S. population is about 296 million, while China's is 1.3 billion.

The U.S. prison population continued to grow last year even though reports of violent crime during 2004 were at the lowest level since the government began compiling statistics 32 years ago, according to a government report released in September.

Ahh, the devilish paper and thought crimes have overtaken violent crime. Look out there goes someone thinking, arrest him and if he isn't quiet, shoot him!

By Anonymous gd, at 10/23/2005 6:06 PM  

Wow, the above says that if we, as Americans, wish to stay out of prison, we should move to China!

What a percentage difference.

Sure lends credence to the concept that the "Statutes are the Bonds" and the "money is being funneled through the prison system"

And even you in government say your free! Ha

You are slaves to your god of this earth...phony money!


By Anonymous cj, at 10/23/2005 6:42 PM  

Did you know if WE refuse to become a slave then the only other choice is to become a transient!

But then transients who refuse to show their SSN or official ID are arrested and the third time that is done they are charged, convicted, and imprisoned for 25 years under the 3 strikes law!

You have a choice to volunteer to confess on your tax return, give your SSN to your employer, or to do whatever the government wants you to do, or else become a transient who then becomes a prison worker!

By Anonymous non-liable, at 10/23/2005 7:06 PM  

The government should jail everyone that defys the "Mandatory" huricane evacuation orders!

Let's raise the prison population. It's only 40% over capacity.

The Just-us dept. should fine them as well. Maybe 500k each. Why not, they can't pay the fines while in jail and will not live long enough to either...

Ever wonder why the fines are so high for those in jail that had nothing before incarcerated?

They monitize those fines and create more phony money!

The statutes are the bonds. GD

By Anonymous gd, at 10/23/2005 7:36 PM  

"Anonymous said...
lucky sucky says
Not mormon,But whore-man they do believe in having more than one, two, three wifes.How many wifes did Jesus's father have?"

Not to get off topic, but let's keep our facts straight and correct. The Mormon faith does not practice nor condone polygamy. It's a felony to have more than one wife and the Mormon faith teaches to obey the law.

By Anonymous Daitoryu, at 10/23/2005 7:45 PM  

Well non-liable, I guess that is why China with a much larger population, has less people in prison than does Amerika.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/24/2005 10:16 AM