Monday, October 17, 2005

Irwin Schiff Trial Coverage by Freedom Law School (Segment 5)

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“The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves.”

"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn't the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn't flat.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic"

(Dresden James, Author)

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/18/2005 12:09 AM  

"The jury has a right to judge both the law as well as the fact in controversy."
John Jay, 1st Chief Justice
U.S. Supreme Court 1789
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"The jury has the right to determine both the law and the facts."
Samuel Chase, U.S. Supreme Court Justice
1796, Signer of Declaration of Indep.
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"The law itself is on trial quite as much as the cause which is to be decided."
Harlan F. Stone, 12th Chief Justice
U.S. Supreme Court, 1941
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"If the jury feels the law is unjust, we recognize the undisputed power of the jury to acquit, even if its verdict is contrary to the evidence."
United States vs. Moylan, 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, 1969
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"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void."
(including direct taxation without apportionment).
Marbury vs. Madison, 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176, (1803)
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"The people themselves have it in their power effectually to resist usurpation, without being driven to an appeal to arms. An act of usurpation is not obligatory; it is not law; and any man may be justified in his resistance. Let him be considered as a criminal by the general government, yet only his fellow citizens can convict him; they're his jury, and if they pronounce him innocent, not all the powers of Congress can hurt him; and innocent they certainly will pronounce him if the supposed law he resisted was an act of usurpation."
2 Elliot's Debates, 94; Bancroft, History of the Constitution, 267
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By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/18/2005 12:10 AM  

Title 18, Section 241. Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or
intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth,
Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any
right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of
the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than
ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in
violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an
attempt to kidnap
they shall be fined
under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life,
or both, or may be sentenced to death.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/18/2005 12:17 AM  

Paymons and his Freedom callin posts are a waste to this blog. We are here to hear from those that are actually at the trial. Paymon is not at the trial. So who ever is posting paymons BS should stop wasting our time!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/18/2005 7:45 AM  

Schiff will get what he deserves.

GUILTY on all counts!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/18/2005 7:46 AM  

Paymons and his Freedom callin posts are a waste to this blog. We are here to hear from those that are actually at the trial. Paymon is not at the trial. So who ever is posting paymons BS should stop wasting our time!

Wow! It must be awful. Trapped there in your home forced to listen to informative trial logs audio posts. Or, are you forced to listen from your government office as a condition of your employment?

By Blogger David Jahn, at 10/18/2005 8:15 AM  

Anonymous said...
"Schiff will get what he deserves.
GUILTY on all counts! 10/18/2005 8:46 AM"

Did he physically harm you? If NOT, and I believer that is the case, what CRIME did he commit against you?

Don't you see, he didn't harm anyone. He offered his research and opinion based upon that research. Did you follow his opinion? I hope not for it is not wise to "follow" anything you haven't researched for yourself...even I am smart enough to get a "second opinion" with regard to important matters in life! If you followed and are unhappy that is your fault and you should throw "stones" at yourself.

If you did research beyond Mr. Schiff and tended to agree with your own research and you found yourself harmed, who in fact actually Brought Harm To You? The only answer is the IRS, not Schiff.

What we have here is, once again, a neo-Nazi type "thought" crime (alleged) and the victim is a piece of paper and ink. That is right, NO ONE was murdered, raped, tortured, wounded etc... by Mr. Schiff. Only a little piece of paper and ink with CONTRARY THOUGHTS were hurt
AND
YOU
have the audacity to stand up for a piece of paper and throw stones at a human being for thinking rather than throw stones at yourself for NOT?

You act as though Stupidity were a Virtue...answer me, Why IS THAT?

CJ

By Anonymous cj, at 10/18/2005 8:34 AM  

"The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it."
Adolf Hitler - Hitler knows YOU better than you know yourself!

By Anonymous gd, at 10/18/2005 8:46 AM  

"Don't you see, he didn't harm anyone."

Not true, CJ. Quite a few people have been criminally prosecuted because they were gullible enough to believe in the Schiff scheme.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/18/2005 7:34 PM  

Anonymous cowardly silly person hissed:

"Not true, CJ. Quite a few people have been criminally prosecuted because they were gullible enough to believe in the Schiff scheme."

State something within this alleged "scheme" which is objectively false and then show the disproof of it. First, though, log in like a man instead of tossing spitwads from dark corners like a cowardly federal criminal.

By Blogger Jamie, at 10/22/2005 12:00 AM