Thursday, September 29, 2005

Irwin Schiff Trial update by Mark Yannone

posted by David Jahn @ 9/29/2005 09:50:00 PM  

7 Old Comments:

Great thoughts bengera. Thanks I will keep that for future reference. CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9/30/2005 1:17 PM  

Irwin:

You are EXACTLY correct on CHina. I talked to a fellow that goes back and forth and owns several businesses here and in CHina. I asked him what the difference is between here and there Re: business. He said CHINA is MORE capitalistic and the US is surprisingly SOCIALISTIC. He said, "It will be a SURPRISE to most Americans to see the level of SOCIALISM here in America and the level of CAPITALISM in China. Americans have been SOLD that they are a CAPITALIST society; CHina is proving them wrong and sadly Americans will only learn too late."

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9/30/2005 11:09 PM  

Irwin:

Hey Irwin....Have some fun with the next IRS employee on the witness stand. Have them read the mission statemnt of the IRS. Ask them if they follow and abide by it. Have him read the definition of a taxpayer. Then ask: "Do you 'service' the entirety of the humans in the US or just the taxpayer?" [You'll get an objection but the point will be made.] Next question: "Ok...since the prosecutor objects to the question does the prosecutor object to the actual mission statement? [no answer]. "Ok...So now we have established that the IRS only "services" taxpayers how did you determine that I was a taxpayer?" "Afterall employees are universally characterized as having no discretionary powers. How did you, as a mere employee determine, that in a system of voluntary compliance, that I was a taxpayer? [You might get an objection]

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/01/2005 9:09 AM  

Irwin:

More fun. You'll need to coach some of your witenesses on this one. Call your witnesses....many if need be. Have them read the Mission Statement [its on line at irs.gov] for the Office of CHief Counsel (OCC). "Can you re-read the last part leaving out all references to governemnt." [Ok.... the Office of the Chief Counsel provides legal guidance to...taxpayers.] Now you ask, "When you wrote the OCC did you obtain legal advice and guidance?" [No] "What is the sole purpose of government? [To serve] What type of "service" in the form of a response did you receive back from the OCC in reply to numerous letters asking for legal guidance or at least a rebuttal?" [None] "In your opinion what was your conclusion for the lack of service?" [That I wasn't a taxpayer otherwise they would have been required to answer me.] Watch all the objections!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/01/2005 9:23 AM  

snicker.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/01/2005 12:34 PM  

which came first, the people or the federal gov?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/02/2005 8:49 PM  

Off the wall: If a body comes to your house and attemps to make you live by his standards, his rules and beliefs and you kick his ass are you a terrorist?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/02/2005 9:00 PM