Thursday, October 20, 2005

Irwin Schiff on "Something's Happening" With Roy Tuckman on KPFK in Los Angeles via phone. Oct 20, 2005 - 1:AM Pacific www.kpfk.org

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Irwin Schiff
on "Somethings Happening"
With Roy Tuckman on KPFK
in Los Angeles via phone.
Oct 20, 2005
www.kpfk.org

By Blogger LAWoman, at 10/20/2005 4:33 AM  

To the jury did you hear the radio announcer say that hopefully you would find Irwin not guilty because he was not able to defend himself? This has been my point all along. There is no need to go over the trial proceedings because this tyrant Dawson did not allow Irwin a fair trial. You should have already returned a verdict of not guilty for the defendants. For god sake give Americans something to be proud of again. It was not too long ago that this was the greatest country in the world. You have in your hands the ability to restore faith to millions who have lost faith. DO THE RIGHT THING TEN MILLION LISTENERS ARE WAITING FOR JUSTICE TO BE SERVED AGAINST THE TYRANT DAWSON.

John

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 6:50 AM  

Frederick Douglas said in 1849, "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will. Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they have resisted with either words, or blows, or by both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress."

By Anonymous mikey, at 10/20/2005 8:40 AM  

Roy mentioned our spells twice, keep witchcraft out of it Roy!

Luke 12:8-9 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God. 9 But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.

Keep it real Roy.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 9:26 AM  

THE LAW, THE COURT, THE TRIAL -

This law is an edifice erected by the merchant with comparatively little assistance either from the courts or the legislatures. We are in the grips of a private mercantile government, which has usurped our Constitution.

Federal Reserve Notes, are private interests, and have created a private permanent debtor/creditor relationship upon which they have contrived a system of alleged compulsion ("voluntary compliance") to file annual reports of information on income, all in the name of "The Government," but in firm control of private interests, cynical, sophisticated, cunning, and brutal, conscienceless and criminal, interests which profit most substantially from the impudent hoax of the personal "Income Tax."

The basis for the compulsion to file, as it is called, is in the permanent debtor/creditor relationship, grounded in the Federal Reserve Notes (perpetual annuity bonds), upon so-called Social Security and other pecuniary matters generally related to insurance. [excert from "The Law Merchant" by William Avery
*********************************

You are being attacked from many directions, some of which have been correctly presented on these threads by a number of fine men and women. More need to be known.

Successfully beat one and they come at you with another. A multi-front war if you will. We have to win on all fronts.

There are two kinds of people = debtors and creditors. Guess which one you are? Just as there are two basic classes of people, domestic and foreign. Guess which one you are? CJ

By Anonymous cj, at 10/20/2005 9:28 AM  

URGENT - Stop the Presses: GREAT NEWS!!

CRIMINAL LAW & PROCEDURE, EVIDENCE, TAX LAW

US v. Yakobowicz , No. 04-0201 (2d Cir. October 17, 2005)
Defendant's conviction for filing false federal excise tax returns is vacated where district court allowed argumentative summations at the conclusion of each witness's testimony and deprived defendant of a fair trial.

To read the full text of this opinion, go to:

[PDF File]
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/2nd/040201p.pdf

G Flanzer gary@425.com

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 11:36 AM  

I pray for Irwin to be victorious in this case.
Judge Dawson, in not allowing Irwin to cite 'the law' within a courtroom of law is oxymoronic and ludicrous. The prosecutions 'objection' and Dawson's 'sustained' is an evil game of 'night & fog'.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 11:50 AM  

Supervisor 5th District
Vote For: 1
Precincts Reporting 113/113 100.00%
Total Votes 38401

BOB WATERSTON 20168 52.52%
MIKE REYNOLDS 15662 40.79%
PHIL ERDMAN 1619 4.22%
PASQUALE F. CARBONE 869 2.26%
MICHAEL GOLDEN 13 0.03%

That he found 13 people that would vote for him is nothing short of a miracle.

By Anonymous dale eastman, at 10/20/2005 12:03 PM  

The chief enemies of republican freedom are mental sloth,
conformity, bigotry, superstition, credulity, monopoly in the market
of ideas, and utter, benighted ignorance. Adderley v. State of
Florida, 385 U.S. 39, 49 (1967) Decision by Justice Black.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 12:11 PM  

Irwin should have had the former IRS agents write up affidavits with as much info Irwin thought he needed and had them recorded at the county. Then the court could not have denied the evidence of the IRS agents because the affidavits were now public record.
HE could have read from different parts of the affidavit to help his case. Just my two cents!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 12:20 PM  

ALL THEY WAMT IS ALL YOU GOT
As I watched in disbelief at judge Dawson's rulings during Mr. Schiff's trial it reminded me of a page from my novel about Irwin Schiff entitled “The Constitutionalist” it goes like this;

“If, we the people, do not stop the government’s misuse of the tax code then the next time congress decides to take our money they’ll just pass a law declaring all crimes are punishable by the forfeiture of all the assets of the accused. Then, they’ll tack a law to the back end of a thousand-page bill that nobody reads, declaring everything is against the law.
Now imagine this scene. Congress decides to spend a few thousand having topless dancers entertain the overworked members of the Senate, but they need twenty thousand dollars. No problem. They send two Federal Marshals to a country club. The Marshals stand on the first green and one of them says to the other, "Hey Dan, did you see that guy’s putt? It missed the hole by a foot."
Dan answers, "Yeah, I did Huey. He misread it," Huey says, "It’s hard to believe a nice looking guy like that has so little respect for the law. Book him Dan-O."
"For what?" Dan-O asks.
Huey solemnly answers, "Being a bad putter is against the law and be sure and get that set of clubs. Maybe they will improve my game. I’ll take his car, confiscate his house and clean out his bank account.”
After a quick glace around Huey exclaims, “Oh no! Did you see that! That golfer over there is looking at us. Doesn’t he know that is against the law? This place is infested with criminals. Call the paddy wagon and round them all up.""

Quarter Sound far fetched? Well, consider this, during the cross examination of an IRS agent Mr. Schiff held up one of his 0 tax returns and asks the agent what about it was illegal. Judge Dawson ruled whatever was illegal about it was irrelevant.
That ruling alone would make one think any police officer could stop you on the street, arrest you and charge you with violating the law, then when you got to trial, the judge could tell you that neither you nor the jury was entitled to know what law you broke! Then, just because he can, as in this case, the judge tells the jury to find you guilty because he says you broke a law.
For other other blogs from The Constitutionalist with pictures of judge Dawson just left click on the blue The Constitutionalit at the beging of this blog. Or go to;
http://mickeydamouse.blogspot.com
http://stupefing.blogspot.com/
http://helliseterna3.blogspot.com
http://mickeydamouse2.blogspot.com
http://helliseternal.blogspot.com

By Blogger We the Constitutionalists, at 10/20/2005 12:22 PM  

dale eastman said...

Supervisor 5th District
Vote For: 1
Precincts Reporting 113/113 100.00%
Total Votes 38401

BOB WATERSTON 20168 52.52%
MIKE REYNOLDS 15662 40.79%
PHIL ERDMAN 1619 4.22%
PASQUALE F. CARBONE 869 2.26%
MICHAEL GOLDEN 13 0.03%

That he found 13 people that would vote for him is nothing short of a miracle.

10/20/2005 1:03 PM


Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. So when you going to flatter me and imitate having some brains?

S/N:00001

By Anonymous The real Dale Eastman, at 10/20/2005 1:15 PM  

I LOVE THE IRS AND THE DEBT MONEY FOR HOW IT HELPS US WITH OUR ECONOMIC FREEDOMS.

Stats: 2005 Index of Econ. Freedom

- United States is as far from the top of the list as El Salvador is beneath us.

- Government Intervention for the United States is equal or higher than Rowanda, Guatemela and Zambia to name a few.

- Fiscal Burden for the United States is HIGHER than Algeria, Romania, Honduras, Bangladesh.

WE NEED TOUGHER TAX LAWS AND HIGHER TAXES, STONGER GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION IN ALL MANNER, AND GREATER DEBT SERVICE FOR INDIVIDUALS AND THE COUNTRY! (not)

Still think you're "free?" CJ

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 1:23 PM  

Excellent reference to Adderley v. State of Florida, 385 U.S. 39, 49 (1967) You ought to be posting commentary to Indymedia.

There are a lot of anarchists and activists that need to study their own plight, and chose between stupidity or acting responsibly by intelligent participation on a grand or trial jury.

One good source on juries is www.fija.org

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 1:36 PM  

MISTRIAL;

The Cassius Clay case should have merit if a known DUTY is only VOLUNTARY!

Can Judge Dawson have Schiff sent to prison regardless of the outcome?
Is Irwin a flight risk that will flee to Canada?
Will Irwin be forced to stay in prison till, and if, he gets his case heard in the U.S. Supreme Court, some 3 years from now?
It didn’t happen to Cassius Clay 35 years ago.

I found the site to Volunteer, or NOT, into the Selective Service, or Draft!
http://www.aposse.org/commons/a_refuse/refuse1.htm

The Supreme Court ruled you do NOT have to VOLUNTEER in the military even when there is a draft, so the same could go apply with taxes!

Get a copy of the 1970 film "AKA: Cassius Clay,"you will hear a Lt. Col. reveal the secret of avoiding being drafted into the military.

By the way: Ali was convicted by a Texas jury of violation of the Selective Service Act -- "refusing induction"; fined $10,000.00 and sentenced to 5 years in prison. In 1971 the United States Supreme Court overturned, and threw out the conviction. Ali never paid the fine or went to prison over the issue.

By Anonymous non-liable, at 10/20/2005 1:58 PM  

Kudo's non-liable

I want to volunteer out of what I volunteered into?

I want to discontinue the continuence.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 2:16 PM  

news flash news flash news flash

NOT GUILTY, NOT GUILTY, NOT GUILTY.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 2:39 PM  

How long will it take to convict Irwin? There is no question he will be convicted, it is the nature of USAMobsters. It is only a matter of time. The record time in convicting an honesty tax movement citizen has been 6 hours and 18 minutes. So this may be the new record. These lying bastards "special (mentally retarded") usually get their way.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 2:51 PM  

Has anyone heard what Walter Maken's sentence is? He was to be sentenced last Tuesday, but there is no word regarding this on his site. http://www.angelfire.com/oh4/befree/index.html#Breaking

By Anonymous Dave, at 10/20/2005 3:01 PM  

Looks like these Jurors are a lot smarther than everyone gave them credit for..maybe the jury nullification cars in play!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 3:09 PM  

Or maybe they are spending their time reading Cindy Neun's 90+ page palimony complain where she exposes the "real" Irwin Schiff.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 3:20 PM  

Was that entered into evidence? The irony is that Judge Dawson will let the Jurors read Cindy's complaint, but not the Internal Revenue Code..you've got to luv justice in present-day Amerika.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 3:26 PM  

The real Irwin Schiff is the same man that has been sayinf for decades-"There is no law that makes one liable for the payment of the income tax. ' tHIS IS BACKED UP BY LOOKING INTO THE irc UNDER lIABILITIES FOR TAXES, PAYMENT OFR TAXES, PENALTIES FOR TAXES. aND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT REGULATIONS, YOU WILL FIND THAT ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT THE IRS USES TO ENFORCE PAYMENT ARE THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE ONLY, AND I MEAN ONLY FOR ALCOHOL, LIQUOR, OR TOBACCO TAXES.

WHATEVER CINDYAND IRWIN PAST SQUABBLES HAVE BEEN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS CASE. TO KEEP BRINGING IT UP MAKES ME THINK THAT YOU ARE SOME BITCH ENAMERANT IN SOAP OPERA DRAMA. WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT HE AND CINDY DID, THAT DOES NOT AFFECT ANY ONE OF US.

SO GET A LIFE AND GET OUT OF THEIRS. NOT EVEN KNOWING THE NUTS AND BOLTS, WE ALL WILL GIVE YOU THIS ONE. NOW WHAT, YOU BITCH.

By Anonymous YO MAMA, at 10/20/2005 3:28 PM  

Win or lose . . . what this trial will and has done is raised awareness 100 fold to the truth about the un-fairness given to the right to all evidence in a trial in this great country. IRS law and the truth about the ability to cease our hard earned dollars or not is just a small facet of what has happened here.
Many more people will now begin to look at the IRS codes and begin to bring forth the truth and evaluate for themselves . . . where as before this only a small percentage of the people were doing so. TALK ABOUT TURNING THE LIGHT ON TO DARKNESS!!
The power in numbers is where action begins and strength happens.
So ever more, people are going to become aware of what happened in this trial. No matter if a defendant is guilty or not guilty . . . they still have the right to be defended completely themselves completely and not prevented from bringing in all evidence to prove their own case. This is where the prosicution has made it's own bed. And once all these people start thinking about the fact that next time it could be them, a family member or a friend that may not be given a fair trial whether it be a tax trial, a lawsuit, a business battle or a traffic ticket.
WOE TO THOSE THAT HAVE DONE THIS!!
Whether you agree with Erwin or not is not as important as . . . DID THEY GIVE HIM HIS RIGHT TO FULLY DEFEND HIMSELF IN A COURT OF LAW. This is where the walls will begin to crumble around the injustice that has been dished out in this case.
THIS IS AMERICA!! EVERYONE OF US DESERVE THE RIGHT TO A FAIR TRIAL!!
What this says to me by not giving Erwin a fair trial is . . . THERE IS SOMETHING TO HIDE.
Only time will tell what impact this trial will bring. After all . . . only a few million people are seeing , hearing and evaluating this trial.HMMMMM . . .

TFJ

By Anonymous Truth For Justice, at 10/20/2005 3:42 PM  

If anyone is interested in politely emailing Judge Kent Dawson’s direct superior within the LDS Church you can address your emails to Elder Charles A. Didier he is over Kent Dawson’s Stake within the LDS Church. His email is DidierCA@ldschurch.org If you are LDS as I am, please, I encourage you to let Elder Didier know how you think about Dawson’s horrific and evil conspiring actions within his courtroom while he wears his black robes of darkness. For the record this is not how the LDS people are and is completely opposite of how LDS people in good standing should act. If you are sending an email please remember that you can attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. It is not Elder Charles Didier or any other LDS member that is at fault only Kent Dawson. I am embarrassed that he is known to be a Mormon let alone a Stake President.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/20/2005 5:14 PM  

HOLD ON!

Did you not know that what the judge says goes! HE IS GOD!!!

But that will FAIL when Schiff’s case does go to the Court of Appeals as in the decision last week of US v. Yakobowicz. See Irwin’s blog site.

Judge Dawson is allowing the jury to decide the case so he won’t have to, but if the jury finds Irwin not-guilty, then he will disbar the jury for some type of tampering by the defense and find Irwin GUILTY!

Schiff should ask this question at the moment before the jury reads the verdict;
Judge Dawson, are you a Masonic Lodge member?
If Judge Dawson says, “Yes,” then Irwin should call for a MISTRIAL!
If Judge Dawson says, “It is irrelevant,” then Irwin should call for a MISTRIAL!
If Judge Dawson says, “NO,” then Judge Dawson is a LIAR and Irwin should call for a MISTRIAL!
Judge Dawson was a high ranking official of the Mormon church, and the Masonic Lodge controls the Mormon church , so therefore Judge Dawson will comply with the Freemasonry rather than the U.S. Constitution!!!
http://www.freemason.org/cfo/may_june_2001/mormon.htm

By Anonymous non-liable, at 10/20/2005 6:30 PM  

Dave said...
"Has anyone heard what Walter Maken's sentence is? He was to be sentenced last Tuesday,"

Maken was entenced to 30 months in prison.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/22/2005 8:32 PM