Monday, October 17, 2005

Cohen, Schiff & Neun Trial Update from Angela Stark

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This post is to the jury if you are reading our posts:
Irwin Schiff is the father of The Truth in Taxation Movement. Our movement is growing in leaps and bounds. I predict in three years we will force the governments hand over this tax issue. It is not by coincidence that President Bush talked about a national sales tax during his last election. He did it to gain votes from our movement who ever we are. Even we do not know the full extent of who we all are. More importantly he is laying the ground work to change the system before public outrage brings down the government. Woe betides a jury that found Irwin guilty after witnessing a kangaroo court. I believe Dawson has sealed his fate already. It may take a few years but he will leave as disgraced judge and hopefully be put in prison where he belongs. He’ll be sacrificed when things get too hot for the government as will Mc Bride because of his disgraceful conduct in the Simkanin trial.
It should not take you the jury more than two minutes to reach your verdict. You do not need to pour over all the evidence or should we say the one sided evidence in this case. You only have to think about one thing now WERE THE DEFENDANTS GIVEN A FAIR TRIAL. When you are satisfied that they WERE NOT you must acquit. If there is a planted juror among you there will be no place for you to hide this is Irwin Schiff you preside over. The lone juror and Mc Bride from the first Simkanin trial will discover the wrath of The Truth in Taxation Movement (The citizens of America).
Finally to the Mormon Church, Dawson will cause you considerable embarrassment in the future you need to throw him out of your congregation before that day ever arrives. If there is a Mormon reading these posts you need to contact your leaders and report his conduct. One of the Ten Commandments is Thou shall not bear false witness, Dawson has certainly done that.

John

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/17/2005 6:50 AM  

Good job Angela,
I emailed George Noory and pasted your request on several forums and was pleased to hear that George mentioned Irwin and the Trial!! Charles Alb, NM

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/17/2005 8:04 AM  

Anybody who is FULLY INFORMED will view the allegations of Cindy Neun's 90+ page palimony petition where the "real" Irwin Schiff is exposed (hint: He is not the kindly grandfather that he acts like in the courtroom).

Anybody who is FULLY INFORMED should also take into account the materials at http://www.quatlosers.com/irwin_schiff.htm and that:

Schiff clients who have been criminally prosecuted aren't hard to find...

United States v. Middleton, 246 F.3d 825 (6th Cir. 2001)
United States v. Dentice, No. 99-50101 (9th Cir. Oct. 6, 1999)
United States v. Payne, 978 F.2d 1177 (10th Cir. 1992)
United States v. Burdett, 962 F.2d 228 (2d Cri. 1992)
United States v. Mosel, 738 F.2d 157 (6th Cir. 1984)
United States v. Crosson, No. 95-176 (E.D. Pa. Dec. 21, 1995)
United States v. Anderson, 637 F. Supp. 1106 (D. Conn. 1986)
A new one for you: United States v. David G. Pflum, 2005 TNT 196-13, No. 04-3508 (10th Cir. 10/7/2005), aff'ng No. 04-CR-40008-SAC (U.S.D.C. Kan.). The opinion is about instructions on "willfulness" and objections to certain testimony on tax rates, not too interesting. The opinion begins:

10th Cir. wrote:
Benjamin Franklin famously quipped that "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." Letter from Benjamin Franklin to Jean-Baptiste Le Roy (Nov. 13, 1789), in 10 The Writings of Benjamin Franklin 69 (A. Smyth ed. 1907). While not contesting the inevitability of the former (as far as we know), David G. Pflum believed he had found a loophole to escape the latter. After an extensive study that included reading books such as "The Great Income Tax Hoax" and "How Anyone Can Stop Paying Income Taxes," he stopped paying taxes.1

[Footnote]1 We note that the author of these books, Irwin Schiff, has maintained for more than 30 years that income taxes are voluntary, but, not surprisingly, "he has never been successful with that theory in court." United States v. Schiff, 379 F.3d 621, 623 (9th Cir. 2004) (citing cases in which Schiff's arguments have been rejected); Newman v. Schiff, 778 F.2d 460, 467 (8th Cir. 1985) (referring to the "blatant nonsense" promoted by Schiff).

The 10th Circuit affirmed Pflum's conviction on eight counts of failure to pay quarterly employment taxes, in violation of 26 U.S.C. § 7202, and three counts of failure to file a federal income tax return, in violation of 26 U.S.C. § 7203, as well as his sentence of 30 months in prison.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/17/2005 8:36 AM  

Good post anonymous! As is known to all, if some persons make an incorrect argument against X, then that means ALL persons making an argument against that X are WRONG. Bravo, anonymous!

That being said, perhaps you could enlighten us as to what the remedy is that the average American can take in order not to subject himself/herself to the internal revenue code. Do tell, anonymous.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/17/2005 9:07 AM  

"what the remedy is that the average American can take in order not to subject himself/herself to the internal revenue code?"

It is called "voting for Congresspersons who will change the tax code", not unilateral self-determinations that you are not liable.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/17/2005 9:12 AM  

Anonymous said...
Anybody who is FULLY INFORMED
You keep showing cases where the law was not applied but rather the decision was made by a corrupt bunch of judges. Dawson is a classic example of what the federal mafia is up to. It is very simple show the law that says we have to pay taxes. Don’t give me this baloney that three laws brought together says we have to pay taxes.
Can you imagine our creator saying to Moses Thou shall not go to the market and help yourself to an apple and then he says thou shall not go to another market and remove a pair of shoes and then he says thou shall not go to another market and take a pot. From those three laws we are supposed to realize that we can not steal. Our creator simply said thou shall not steal. How difficult is that for our dim-witted government. One more time for our mindless government employee’s I.E…. Dawson.
The Thirteenth Amendment
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
WHEN YOU TAX MY SALARY YOU HAVE TURNED ME INTO YOUR SERVANT.
I am not the governments servant but they are most certainly ours.

John

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/17/2005 9:13 AM  

YOU ASKED FOR IT SO HERE IT IS = Where to begin to achieve the REMEDY! Let's have on point discussion for to simply call names or post hackneyed b.s. will prove you haven't a clue.

1. They have an official record that claims you (if you are an American with a birthright) to be a resident alien or franchised corporate business or Federal Employee other such nomenclature. This mind you is their “official record.” Now what do you have on the “official record” to rebut the above? NOTHING! Certified letters are meaningless as are tapes of interviews. The record shows you to be something akin to the above and therefore, according to them, YOU ARE!
(They attack you on the basis of the above.)
2.Now that you know who you are and what they say you are you must first find, understand and take action to administratively correct the official record! You cannot enter court against them without first exhausting your administrative record.
3.Caveat, you have declared yourself, through trickery and deceit, to be a Federal Employee, resident alien or franchised corporation or business having “effectively connected” income to them and thus you have admitted to being something that you don’t believe you are, and in Absolute Truth and Fact, you are not, but that is not what the record shows.
4. Read my other posts and I’ll post more on the subject.
5. Forget about hating them or saying they are doing something “illegal.” They are simply following (albeit underhandedly so most often) the procedure to deal with Resident Aliens, Federal Employees, or Franchised Corporate Entities.
6. Begin to see yourself as they see you and then you will be at the exact starting line to understand what they did, how they did it, what happened to you and how to then correct the fraud, trickery and deceit enacted upon you.

No man or government is allowed to make a gain through deceit!
Respectfully Submitted, CJ

By Anonymous cj, at 10/17/2005 9:38 AM  

Anyone just seeing what Judge Dawson has done in this case knows exactly how innocent people were convicted. The IRS relys on corrupt federal judges to ensure a coviction.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/17/2005 9:44 AM  

p.s. IF anyone thinks that I am not "on target" then prove it.

Don't just call names, show anger, disagree without substance, post some off point issue - If that is your behavior you will be proving that you learned it from the IRS/Corporate Federal government for those are their tactics.
Sincerely, CJ

10/17/2005 10:42 AM

By Anonymous cj, at 10/17/2005 9:44 AM  

How is it that there is a Corporation listed in the database of the NV Secretary of State as follows:

"TREASURY DEPARTMENT- INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE"

Doesn't this prove that the "TREASURY DEPARTMENT- INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE" is a corporation. The "U.S. Treasury Department" is a government agency.

Therefore, if "TREASURY DEPARTMENT- INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE" is a NV Corporation, then who owns the shares since bearer shares can be used in NV? It is listed as a C Corporation (for profit corporation)....who is entitled to the profit? The U.S. Gvt. or some other 3rd party.

If bearer shares are being utilized than any foreign or domestic 3rd party could own this Corporation and be receiving its profits.

Notice how the payment has to be made out to the "U.S. Department of Treasury" which is a government agency...

it appears that the "TREASURY DEPARTMENT-INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE" is a provate collection agency owned possibly by a non-resident alien 3rd party.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/17/2005 9:44 AM  

Hello Jerry Hosteg here,

Most people living in this country hates being taxed. Have you ever met anyone who enjoys paying taxes?

I say we rid the Internal Revenue Service entirely. From it's deliberate unlawful execution of it's own laws, that is grounds for termination! They are not a service to the people at all!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/17/2005 9:58 AM  

Did that person say they right word, “Don’t give me this baloney”? I would say show me the bologna, show me the meat! So I guess he did say the right word, nonsense!

Why is the DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY - INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE listed under the Nevada Secretary of State site; https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?CorpID=235044 as a Nevada corporation rather than in the District of Columbia?

Well, this is a PROFIT making corporation and their profit is NOT gains they have to pay Federal taxes on, but their losses make the gains. Get IT, you NOT paying your ‘income’ tax is their LOSS!!! They can estimate that 100% of you pay the tax and anyone who doesn’t just adds to their loss, even though they have paid ALL their expences.

Why don’t we go to Congress and have them go back to the 1944-1945 tax rates as that could easily get the government out of debt.
http://staff.jccc.edu/swilson/businessmath/fit.htm
Here you can see that the rate was 94% for those that made over $200,000; which would probably be $2,000,000 today. That would leave only $120,000 available if he had no deductions.

Today we should have an EQUAL tax rate which would be fair and that would mean that someone making $20,000 would leave only $1,200 available if he had no deductions. And he should just happen to live near Los Angeles where a single apartment runs at $2,000 per month. Well, that is at least 20 people living there to survive.

By Anonymous non-liable, at 10/17/2005 12:54 PM  

Good article by Mark Yannone
October 16, 2005

"Injustice Displayed in Irwin Schiff Trial." So read the Las Vegas Tribune headline on October 7, 2005
http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=26945

By Blogger LAWoman, at 10/17/2005 3:22 PM  

Just remember the IRS is the collection agency for the Federal Reserve. Which is no more Federal then Federal Express but is owned an run by the cartel of banking families of the world! When the Fed goes the IRS will go with it! Its their fiat dollar (Federal Reserve Notes) that is destroying America! Everybody in America should read the book "Thieves in the Temple"

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/17/2005 4:50 PM